Today, the US government will argue before the Supreme Court that just because it "leases" Guantanamo Bay garrison from Castro's government doesn't make it US Territory. If NOT US Territory, then military does NOT have to afford prisoners the same Constitutional rights that would be available to protect "illegal aliens" in the US. If Guantanamo is US Territory, then Nevada (ipso facto) becomes sovereign territory of the UK because the UK leases 80% of the Nevada Desert via the US-UK Joint Agreement For Cooperation on Atomic Energy For Mutual Defence Purposes", l947, as..amended, 1958.
IF the SUPREME COURT rules against the Bush administration, it has tremendous ramifications for the State of Nevada which would instantly become the legal equivalent of a British "Shire". Why? Because the British Government leases 80% of the State for Military Testing, and the world's "most extensive" Global Hawk missile deployment, command and control, at "Fallon" and the "EWC" system, from the US. (Electronic Warfare Control System" in the hands of the British? (you be the judge!)
Part of the 80% includes the perpetual lease (not unlike those with China in Hong Kong) British on most of the Indian Reservation Lands in the North and Central. It appears even the Mormon Church leases land to the British in Nevada...and perhaps several other location in Idaho, Utah and Colorado.
In fact, the UK uses the Desert as a "test track" for The Global Hawk system.
Despite the fact that the US developed the once "top secret" system, much is under "joint command and control". Including the UK Communications/Satellite Division. There is no doubt that the UK "special forces" in the "Communications Division", shave leased millions of acres in Nevada, since 1947.
In fact, the UK Military Operations account for approximately 48% of all Global Hawk deployments, under the auspices of "Shared Command & Control Transformational requirements. By some estimates, nearly 50,000 British Troops are stationed in the Nevada Desert. The area leased, includes "Area 51", which is reportedly to maintain a massive British presence in underground facilities.
Actually, the Brititsh "presence" at area 51 in Nevada Desert, as well as dozens of other commerical, mining and military "lease" sites, throughout Utah, Idaho and Colorado mining region originally derives from Crown cooperation with "Mormon Territory" or "Utah Territory". Why?
The early Utah Territory remained independent from l849 to l896 for nearly 40 years while the Federal Govt refused to admit it into the Union. During that period the Mormons allied with British Mining, Commercial and Governmental interests, to generate revenue for the Territory, because the FEDERAL government had turned it's back on it.
One of the most closely guarded "Commercial/Political" secrets is that the British Crown was actually the largest investor in the California and Mormon, Gold and Silver mines. By some estimates, British leases in California are equally as substantial.
Experts indicate that as much as 87% of all Gold produced in the California Gold Rush of l849, et seq, were British Commercial operations...including Natomas Mining and Minerals in Sacramento which mined 100% of the Sacramento Region under the Management of Herbert Hoover. The Queens arsenic and mercury-laden mine tailings are still heaped dozens of feet high throughout the region.
Essentially, Utah had virtually no effective farming or tax base in the 1850's because the land was so dry and alkaline. As a result, it survived for nearly 50 years as a "client state" of the Britsh Common-stealth by collecting "mineral fees", "leases" or "transferring", millions of acres of land for "gold, uranium, Silver, Vanadium, radium, lead, coal, etc" throughout the West.
During this period, much of what we know as the "old west" was actually "New Britain"...being acquired by British Mining interests and private citizens...one of the richest "pre-colonies" in the British Empire. The Area around area 51 was mined heavily by the British in the late 1890s.
The lead "tailings, which are a by-product of silver mining are still visible today. Groom Lake Lead Mines, is actually called "Pittman Station", not area 51. Much of the land the British now lease was actually, originally "Indian land"...under the Treaty of the "Ruby Slipper". The fundamental conflict between the "Federal Gold Standard" and the "state silver standard" has been part of a Gold War ensnaring the two countries since the War or 1812.
Unless we forget, I believe Zachary Taylor, born in l804, was the 1st President that had not been born a British Citizen or born in "pre-revolutionary" Colonies.
Based on provisions of the "Ruby Slipper" Treaty, and the UK/US Joint Atomic Agreement, it appears the UK leases approximately 80% of the Nevada Desert as an accommodation to permit British with "oversight" over all US Nuclear Weapons testing programs. In l998, Clinton exempted most of Area 51 and the surrounding desert from Compliance with most Federal Regulation.
The mines and land grants around Area 51, were orginally called the "Conception Mines". The name and grant was changed to Groom, when a new group of British investors came in the late 1870s. "Groome Lead Mines, Ltd".
The other 20% is owned by Baron von Hilton (10%), who is a British Citizen and another 10% owned by Canadian Company, Pico Holdings, Ltd. which is also part of the British Common-stealth of Nations. Of course, maybe I'm just jealous because the Baron's ancestors were granted the same Estate in Southern England that William the Norman/VIking liberated from MY ancestors. So, I'm probably more sensitive to lands being pulled out from under people by hidden shennanigans. Is no where safe from these people? THE END! zorro
"BLYMIE MATE!-Did You Brush Your Teeth Today? I'll just put another "Shrimp" on the "BAR-B" for ya!"
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PS: The Treaty of Paris, that ended the War of 1812 granted the Islands off the Eastern Shore of the Colonies TO the 13 Colonies. There was no disposition of the remaining islands. Since Florida was STILL British territory in 1804, and since subsequent Treaties between Britain, Mexico & Spain, did not appear to make any disposition of the islands that lay off the Florida Coastline, there is an argument that "Jupiter Island", (like Bermuda's and Bahamas..etc) is also British Territory, aka a Crown Fee Simple, leased to the current "development" or a Life Tenancy, in current owners with right of automatic reverter.
If so, it is NOT subject to the laws of the United States and the Bush Family Estates would be in British Waters "international".
Does "Tiger Woods" Live in Britain?
PS: Assuming all the detainees/renditees at Guantanamo are +/- "illegals" and "aliens" vs "legal" and "aliens" vs "legal and citizens", I always wondered if "war" detainees who are on US territory "involuntarily" for an "indeterminate" period of time, where "presence" is NOT consented too, are entitled to a higher level of legal protection and "hospitality" than "illegal aliens" whose presence in the US is "Voluntary" for a "determinate" period of time, "Temporary", pending capture, administrative proceedings and deportation.
PPS: Ooops! It's plausible that Bobby Kennedy, urged JFK not to renew the US/UK Nuclear Treaty, when he took office. Among other oppressive obligations, the treaty requires every newly elected US president to seek "prior approval" of the British Crown before deploying, testing or detonating a US Atomic Weapon.
As I understand the terms, all US Nuclear Testing must be done in the presence of British "monitors". Spent Nuclear fuel, and all Uranium used in Nuclear Power plants, that were processed through "British-patented" enrichment systems must be "audited" and "returned" to British Control. It appears the Uranium may even have been "leased" which was up in the late 1980's forcing the US to dismantle most of it's entire Nuclear Power industry and collegiate Nuclear research facilities throughout the US.
The Treaty also gives the UK certain soveriegn rights over virtually ALL Uranium enrichment, by virtue of the UK "patent rights"in the area of Uranium Processing, "Detonators" and "reprocessing of fissile materials, negotiated under the Manhattan Project and Tennessee Valley Authority reprocessing agreements.














Then will English be the official language?
Alright, some quotes-
"the British Government leases 80% of the State for Military Testing" -paragraph 2
"The other 20% are owned by Baron Hilton, who is a British Citizen and a Canadian Company which is also part of the British Common-stealth Nations." -paragraph 3
So no Americans own anything in Nevada?
Are you sure?
You should probably tell Donald Trump, he actually believes that he owns some things in Las Vegas.
How do you know about what happens in Area 51?
Instead of posting on message boards you should really seek a career in intelligence.
Kill yourself,
Sandy
In Northern California, Herbert Hoover's old "firm" called Natomas Mining and Minerals still owns the "mineral rights" beneath the entire region at the 256 foot mark and below. NMM is owned by the British Crown. (Mines, in other words!) Technically, all property owners are supposed to own in "Fee Simple Absolute"..which means EVERY single right, without "other interest". So, in answer to your question, i promise you Donald Trump doesn't own a Fee Simple Absolute on anything in Las Vegas. He owns "Subject" to a prior right. He owns "subject to the lease in the order of an "easement" in Las Vegas. Maybe his attorney's should be better at Real Estate law. Sorry, Don! Tell em they're fired! Hope you didn't pay too much!
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Makes sense to me! Just put em all in area 51 and put a British bullet....show them a Limey Ballett!
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